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- ( of 60 ) Subject: Website testimonial
Dear Ray, I was so excited to find your website! I love all the information I found. For years, I have kept a somewhat low profile as a liberal democrat. Even my mother when she was alive taught me to vote democrat but register republican so no one would know my political affiliation. Even my father who is a very conservative republican doesn't want the rest of our family to know that I am a democrat. I find it all very comical. When I tell people that I am a democrat or more accurately, a liberal, they believe that I cannot also be a Christian! I have been a liberal since I was 17 in high school because I simply believed that the democratic party does more to help people than the republican party. Please add me to your email list. I look forward to updates. I will also probably print some of the pages to use for discussion or to defend my point of view.
- ( of 60 )Subject:Wow!
"I just want to say thank you for taking the time to create this web site. I grew up in the Lutheran church and studied religion through private Lutheran schools my entire childhood. In choosing politics, I've always said I am going to choose the politicians who are doing things to help people. I remember being taught not to trust blindly. Read your Bible, learn it for yourself, and you'll know without a doubt if your church and/or politican follows Christs teachings.
For me, your website and everything I've read so far is so on target and it's amazing! It puts into words so many feelings, thoughts, and perspectives, that until now, I was unable to express.Thank you!
I think most of all, I've gained a new perspective on my own life. I've struggled for years trying to figure out why the church doesn't fit me anymore. You've given me new hope to find what I am seeking. I love how you've included bible passages, explanations, and reminders about how we are supposed to live. I hope many many more find your site and take the time to embrace it. Thank you and God bless you, and all who have helped you, for making a difference!"
- ( of 60 )Subject: It feels better not to be standing alone
"Praise God! I thought for years that I was one of the very few who saw the truth as you do. I even wallowed in condemnation for YEARS because of all the liberal-bashing imposed by conservatives who have hijacked the Christian faith as a vehicle for their own self-serving purposes (namely, to worship the false god of Mammon pursuant to worldly wealth and prominence through Mammon's man-made religion, capitalism). But I always knew that my beliefs were right, and I have no idea where conservatives have led themselves to believe that Jesus is an American Republican. They hang their entire belief system on a single issue - abortion. But I know the real truth about that - they just USE the abortion issue to strike fear into the hearts of their congregations by warning them that if they vote for the liberal pro-choice candidate, they will surely go to hell. That way, the capitalists who are in collusion with their cronies, the conservative Christians, hold onto their power to oppress another day. ("God's not an American. He's not even a Republican." - Keith Green) It feels better not to be standing alone on this issue, even though Daniel wasn't alone in the lion's den."
- ( of 60 )Subject: an answer to my belief system
"Thank you so much for this site! I prayed to God this morning for an answer to my belief system and I got on the computer and was lead directly to your site. I believe God is working through you. I believe I have my answer. I see no manipulation of scripture but the words of Christ as I have come to know them through my study of the bible.
I work with the Democratic party. I am very liberal but that doesn't mean I agree with everything my party does. But I vote with my heart and conscious (conscience) and I believe the Democratic party values are closer to the teachings of Christ and any other party. Thank you so much for your site! I feel at peace now.
I have noticed that people within my own (Pentecostal) church how I am treated. Some of the things that have been said to me in the name of God have been disturbing. I have a really hard time when these people of Christ condemn me for following Christ and his true word. I have a hard time when these people follow Sarah Palin and people like Glen Beck and Limbaugh that spew hate and lies. I have a hard time when my pastor talks about tithing 10% of my income and I am on a fixed income yet the pastors at my church take constant expensive vacations... I could go on and on.
As a web developer I don't find the design of the site attractive but the message is great. That is what I came here for. I understand you are a man of God, not a professional developer."
- ( of 60 )Subject: great website!
"I thoroughly admired this website exposing the hypocrisy and evil inherent in our organized religious institutions. It says all the things I've always known and felt but in such an organized manner. This actually serves Christ's mission more than the churches have. I'm amazed at the thoroughness, the forcefulness and the absolute ring of truth.
This message should be put out there more broadly, but how? Television (media control and lack of sponsorship)? I really don't know how, but the message rang loud and clear to me: Jesus Christ wouldn't even recognize the church as it is today.. .
I bless your efforts, and if I can be of further assistance, I have much to say, but you've already said much of it so well! "
Bill (working on a Master of Humanities degree, in Central Indiana)
- ( of 60 )Subject:Liberals Like Christ
"I've just now discovered your website. I'm nearly overcome with happiness at what's here. I've browsed through many of the pages (but not nearly enough), and through some of the testimonials and find that I can only echo what's already been said. Your work here is a thing of beauty. I very much wish it were in book form that could be held, treasured, and bought in multiples to be shared around. Is it? Maybe I'll find that out when I continue exploring.
Of course, I have too many books already, but I keep hoping to find the one you've got here potentially.
In the dark days and months leading up to September 11, and certainly since, it has often seemed to me that there is a tremendous need for a grass-roots spiritual movement to arise from such a liberal "religious" perspective to take back the nightmare of conservative "Christian" dogma and tyranny.
That's all I can say at the moment. I'm too stirred up at the moment to be able to be very coherent. An ocean is churning inside my head, but I feel a huge desire to explore all the nooks and crannies of your site, so I must get busy doing so.
Thank you so much for your work. This is truly splendid."
- Laurie H., West Coast
- ( of 60 )Subject:Liberals Like Christ
" I cannot tell you how much your website has changed my life in the past two days. I just read the testimonials site, and unlike most of those people, the ideas were new to me. I cannot believe that I thought it was right to not care about the poor and sick.
After finding your site, I read the Gospel with new eyes only to find that what I have been thinking was not from Jesus. . . . Your website has been like a punch in the stomach that knocked my breath out, one that I needed! I now realize why chasing a big business job and acquiring possessions were not panning out for me. In the past two days, I think about Jesus's teaching all the time and have found so many ways to help my family, friends, and others in need that I would have overlooked for less important endeavors.
This will be a bit challenging, since I was once in College Republicans and have shaken George W. Bush's hand! I really didn't realize the indifference to helping those who are in need that the G.O.P. represents. . . I now realize how our priorities are messed up. Can you believe how much value America puts on fashion, cars, plastic surgery, etc. when only 1 out of every 100 people in the world have a computer! I am guilty of it too, but I am changing."
- Leanne ( a young adult in Illinois )
- ( of 60 )Subject:some thoughts:
"I must admit, despite some blogging and message boarding, I have done far too little as a priest to stand up to conservatives and the spine-less imps who preach a mantra of "tolerance,tolerance" in face of the continuing conservative onslaught against our freedoms.
As of today, that all changes. I will, before God as my witness, renew my priesthood in a concerted effort to work harder for the marginalized and to give a more forceful voice against religious and political conservativism. I want to thank you again, Ray, for being such a persistent and engaging source of information and, thus shared power, for the people of God."
The Rev.Thomas Gilbert
- ( of 60 )Subject: G.O.P. Corruption page
" Hi Ray,
Just want to thank you for this site.
I am a Mississippi native "Christian" who is immersed in the radically conservative, Christian Coalition led, Focus on the Family brainwashed, Bible Belt. I have (for years) been asking the same questions you ask (and answer, in many cases).
As a "Christian" (which, honestly, I try not to use the name anymore since it has become tainted by these Judeo-Christian believers) I cannot see what they "see" in Scriptures. How is it that this country is so blinded?
I don't look at myself as Dem or Rep (hell, I have voted for both).
I actually became so pissed at the process one year I voted for that pipsqueak (Ross Perot) over Bush and Dukakis (quickly coming to my senses and voting for Clinton the next term).
Anyway, I love this site. Very good information. Thanks again ! "
Ray B (northeast Mississippi)
- ( of 60 )Subject: THANK YOOOOOOUUUUUU!!!!!
"I only discovered your website a couple hours ago and have been reading non-stop, and will continue to do so. I just wanted to express my utter and sincere gratitude to you for having the guts, compassion, and intelligence for putting up such an outstanding website in the face of so much opposition. It is so wonderful to finally find a place that identifies just about every single one of my core ideals and beliefs and more for me to learn!
It is a horrible thing to think you are completely alone, when just about everyone around you, and then the majority of your own country on top of that, accept and practice truly cruel and unjust deeds. . I have been saying for most of my short life (I'm only 18) that love is the answer, that Jesus never said a single word about hatred or greed, unless it was in opposition to it. But there are so few that believe that love is the true way, the only way this world can ever be fixed. Regardless of religion, ethnicity, sex, age, etc., love is the only way we can unify and make this sad world a wonderful place.
I am going to tell every one of my friends about your website, and furthermore, all those I stand in opposition to. I don't know how many people I can help see that love is the true answer, but maybe your website will help me in doing that.
Thank you so much, and keep up the good work.
S. K. (in Georgia)
- ( of 60 )Subject: Religious Menu
"Ray, a warm hello to you!
I am over-joyed happening upon your website. A minister, I have been deeply disheartened and given pause by the proliferation of hate, oppression and injustice that we are seeing today. I more often than not now times, find myself on the same playing field - asking the same tough questions many who seek counsel ask. I feel led to Liberals Like Christ. I am finding hope for my concerns, peace in place of frustration, and I feel rejuvinated in spirit and strength. Please accept my heartfelt gratitude for the uplifting and ministry-saving context of your much needed, sought-after message of truth and inspiration derived from LLC's material.
Your steadfast and ardent committment to making your web pages virtually available to all seekers of truth and light is equally inspiring and appreciated. In the words of my favorite prayer : "Thank You, God" !
Cordially In Christ,"
John ( a Dr. of Divinity and Pastoral Counselor in Tenn. )
- ( of 60 )Subject: JesusNoRepublican.Org site
" Thank you so much for this site. I grew up in a scary Amway/Reagan/Fundamentalist household, and I stayed away from the church for a long time. Last Easter, I converted to Catholicism, because I thought Catholics escaped the evil and hypocrisy that so defines the Fundamentalist movement. To my shock and disgust, I heard of bishops telling Catholics that they would be committing a mortal sin by voting for John Kerry, a devout Catholic. Someone sneaked poorly-printed, misspelled Pro-Bush propaganda into my church the Sunday before Black Tuesday.
I had almost lost hope that there were any Christians out there who actually follow Christ's teachings. I finally feel a little less alone
- ( of 60 )Dear Ray
"Thanks so very much for this site. I am a Christian and was always a Liberal in my thinking. Due to the brainwashing & manipulation of many televangelists & men of the cloth in the pulpit......I was once a conservative right wing Republican but never again. I learned much from your site & it was very supportive & what was always in my heart (even as a young girl) you have on your site. I feel I could write volumes but it is a waste of time & energy except to read about how the right wing highjacked the Christians and the conservatives is very interesting reading
The bottom line - manipulation is very wrong & twisting the words of the Bible and Jesus of course are as well
I bookmarked your site & put it in my favorites. I sent it to a Christian friend in CO & he emailed me back warning about secular sites from the left wing......
Keep up the good work - I honestly would send a donation but my spouse and I are mid to late 40's & out of work so until we get on our feet we are not able to donate to anything except for our time which we have done for Move On and the Kerry Campaign for this election
God Bless You & Thanks so much for your site - I learned & will continue to re-read all the info."
- ( of 60 )Subject: re: Call no man 'father'
"Ray, I have viewed your site a number of times and thought I'd say Hi and great site. I was raised in the Empire*Church, a 'Grand Knight of the Altar', 'Bishop's Accolade', and other crap.
As a teen, my father was assigned to the embasy in Madrid. a trip to Rome showed me the disgusting hoard of wealth and booty in the Vatican and i was "allowed" to bend and kiss the ring of Pope John the 23d.
Three years of living under the Catholic fascist dictator Franco, and learning of his Catholic buddies, Adolf and too many dictators to list, and visits to sick and demented churches like 'Valle de los Caidos', a burial monument to death under fascists, I told my parents on my 18th birthday, after my return to the U.S.A., 'I am not a Catholic ! ! ! !'
I now am always amazed at the free ride the Empire*Church gets. Like this morning, I called a liberal talk show that had complained about the "evangelicals" on the right and the three stooges ( Dobson, Robertson, Falwell ) and suggested they consider who is getting the power in America these days. All four Bush appointments are Roman Catholics, they will have five with Alito, unless Sen. Salazar (RC) decides to filibuster.
The liberals will blast the evangelicals over and over, but when I suggested they look at the Catholics, the host said he would not attack the Catholics; many good Democrats are Catholic ! I told him that I lived in a country where the Catholics took over both partys and the courts and installed a dictator. with control of the U.S. Supreme Court, when Congress passes an unconstitutional law.........who ya gonna call ? ? It took 40 years for Spain to take control from the Church. for awhile. I hope this country will come to its senses before it's too late.Keep up the needed work."
Gary (owner of 2 Masters degrees)
- ( of 60 )Subject: LiberalsLikeChrist.Org
"I happened upon LiberalsLikeChrist.org today through a series of links, through articles and blogs on the web. I'm certain you must be swamped with messages from relieved and vexed humans every day, but, to add to the cacophany, I wanted to say thank you.
From the heart of a very agnostic American woman this thanks comes. Your site is infomative, balanced, and brimming with such compassionate reason that I actually wept. I was brought up strictly Lutheran, and have been struggling my entire life with the contrasts between the beautiful, peaceful ideologies I was taught and the burning hatreds I always overheard and sensed throughout the church community. Your words bring me great joy and relief. I am humbled in knowing that there are people still left who live well, who are ethical and who find the peace and true meaning in Christ's teachings. You are a comfort and geat source of inspiration to many, I am certain. May your words continue to reach out to those who are lost, aching and searching for signs that their God still lives and loves and cares for them.
Again, thank you for what you are doing and for what you have already done.
L. D. (30 y.o. single parent, industrial buyer, advocate for reason - southern Indiana)
- ( of 60 )Subject: Re: Abortion_2 page
"This web site is fabulous - a real find and a great help with these issues! Thanks so much for all the obvious time and attention that you have put into this.
I'm sending a link right now to my pro-life girlfriend, who to her credit will NOT be voting Republican this year! But I'm sending it anyway. She's a devout Episcopalian and I'm sure she'll be surprised at the dearth of Biblical back-up for her postiion.
I'm also sending a link for your site to my brother-in-law in Ohio, who thinks that liberals take money out of his pockets to help undeserving people who don't have the character to help themselves!
Again, thanks for your contributions to this liberal-conservative issue -
Proud to be a Liberal."
[ An attorney in Virginia ]
- ( of 60 )Subject: re: PaulvsAll.html page
"I am glad that I discovered your website. It has only been a few yrs. since I believed that I was the only person in the entire world who had misgivings regarding the man known as Paul. Once I got on the internet, however, I found that I was not alone.
Because of my feelings regarding the teachings of the man known as Paul, I left the mainline Protestant church of which I had been a lifelong member. On one occasion I attempted to discuss my feelings with a minister but it quickly became clear that this minister believed I was dead wrong. Soon afterward, I left the church and have no intention of ever returning
Jesus stressed caring for the oppressed, the weak, those in need, etc. He wanted his followers to love each other and stated that the one who was greatest would be the humble servant of all. He demonstrated this by washing the feet of His disciples. There is nothing humble about Paul. In fact, to me he comes across as arrogant and intolerant of others. I know that Jesus would not have chosen such an individual to represent Him. However, the so-called fundamentalists believe that Paul does represent Jesus, and their numbers seem to be growing by leaps and bounds. In conclusion, I am happy to learn that I am not alone in my thinking. I feel very close to Jesus and I know that He has guided me and protected me during my lifetime.
I am a 75 yr. old female and know for certain that I have experienced on several occasions what could only be described as divine miraculous intervention on my behalf. As one hymn is entitled, "His eye is on the sparrow, and I know He watches me."
Thank you for this website. It helps to know that there are others who feel as I do."
Elaine, (a retired Bookkeeper & former Presbyterian from Texas)
- ( of 60 )"I am so glad that I came across your site. My father is a devout Southern Baptist who unfortunately is easily mislead by hateful propaganda spewed forth by organizations like the Christian Coalition and Focus on the Family. He keeps forwarding me articles from their newsletters and I spend a lot of time doing research from books like "People's History of America" (Howard Zinn), "Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them" (Al Franken), "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" (Greg Palast), and websites like Salon.com, CommonDreams.org, TruthOut.org, etc to write rebuttals. Unfortunately, I am not as well versed in Bible study as you are, so I've never been able to use Biblical arguments against their fundamentalist drivel -- but you've just provided me with an amazing resource! Thank you so much! I wish that more Christians were like you, and not Pat Robertson, or our so-called "President"
I greatly admire your thoughtfulness, compassion, and courage in these difficult times
Victor (San Francisco, CA)
- ( of 60 )Dear Ray,
" You responded to my post on the History Channel board concerning Jesus being a liberal, to which I accepted your invitation to peruse your site. I was overwhelmed and impressed--I had been looking for such a good site to extol the virtues of liberalism and to corroborate the notion that modern liberalism, as forged by the likes of Voltaire and Thomas Jefferson and continued in the work of Henry David Thoreau, Leo Tolstoy, Abraham Lincoln, Mahatma Gandhi, and Martin Luther King, is directly descended from the Gospels. Concerning Jesus being a liberal and a socialist, I truly thank the serendipitous find of your site in backing up the things I have said all along.
As an historian living in a conservative country, I seek to extol the virtues of liberalism as the shining beacon of reform throughout the world that it is. Despite the popular game of attacking liberals on every front, and despite the failure of liberal leadership over the last decade to continue the cause in the UK and US, I think the essence of liberalism--of seeking solutions to the problems of the world based on seeing humanity as a whole, foregoing traditional biases for the sake of reason and empathy, and using the resources of the world to benefit ALL of God's children and not just the ones who can manipulate politics and economics to their advantage--is still the only way to pull humanity out of the doldrums of nationalism, terrorism, xenophobia, slavery, and poverty. Despite the perceived lack of liberal political leadership in the US and the venom of modern conservatives, it is imperative to remember that free will through an educated synthesis of the words of Jesus is the key to understanding the great movements of freedom throughout the world throughout the last three centuries. As I said, I seek to explore this through the eyes of an historian. If you have such essays at your disposal, I would love to peruse them. If not, I would love to write them for you.
Please let me know. Sincerely, "
Russell J. Woods
- ( of 60 )Subject: Draft of a Constitutional Amendment to
Defend Biblical Marriage
" You don't need to tell me about Liberals Like Christ because I've not only already discovered your web site and admired it, but I've referred others to it. I was raised a "hard-shelled" Baptist and Republican. However, as I got old enough to think for myself, I kept questioning my parents about the conflicts between Republicanism and what our church taught about Jesus' love and forgiveness, as well as his "liberal" attitudes toward helping others, and the problems of wealth presented in the Bible. (Today I'm neither Baptist nor Republican, but I am an active church member at a much more liberal church and I'm an independent (unenrolled) voter who leans Left most of the time.) The discovery of your web site was so extremely satisfying because it concisely and intelligently says so many of the things I've thought for many years. I truly appreciate the good work you've done
I hadn't heard of the JesusNoRepublican.org web site, though, so I'll have to check it out."
- ( of 60 )Subject: It was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO heartening to find this group and the Liberals Like Christ website.
"In the early 80s I became born again and joined a church that went right along with the Pat Robertson Jerry Falwell conservative Christian agenda. I totally bought into it. I was completely pig ignorant of what was going on in the world except what I was told in church. I remember a particularly cringe-inducing comment I made during the Bush/Dukakis election... my friend said, "I think we need a Democrat in the White House." I said, "Dukakis is a card carrying member of the ACLU." Totally bought that because I'd heard Bush say it. And of course thought the ACLU was bad because I'd been told that. I thought homosexuality was a horrible sin even though I had friends who were gay and I knew damn well they didn't "choose" to be that way
My God I was an idiot. A few years later, as my marriage became so bad I started seriously questioning which was a worse sin, divorce or suicide, it was down to those two choices. Luckily instead I started thinking critically about the whole conservative Christian reality tunnel. One cathartic moment I was standing around with a bunch of women at a church social gathering and I used the word "shit" in a sentence. They looked at me with disgust and one said, "I don't think that's language befitting a Christian woman." I thought, good Lord, these women are the f-n' Stepford Wives
I noticed that they seemed to be concerned about right wing politics, old testament laws and what Paul said much more than they were interested in what Jesus said. I remember that bit from Acts where God strikes down the two people who keep some of their money for themselves and wondered how that fit into our sanctification of capitalism. And most of all I started wondering, who is this Paul who says he speaks for God? And what is this Bible, written thousands of years before and dozens of years after Christ and put together hundreds of years after Christ by people who's agenda I don't know about. I started seeing that the the whole christian reality tunnel used this book to promote their own non-christian ideals, and deadened it by turning it into an idol. Plus you thrown in the whole "America is God's favorite" crap and the whole thing is an absolute steaming pile of, well, shit
So I left the church and stopped believing the Bible was the word of God around 1990. I started reading Eastern philosophy. I really like Alan Watts, who explained more reasoned, enlightened, and loving ways to interpret christianity. But deep inside there's always the nagging, "what if I'm wrong and I'm just being fooled by the devil?" I still have that nagging feeling, and I've searched it honestly, and I don't think it's Satan but left over brainwashing
Now I found this wonderful website that has shown me I'm not the only person who thinks a Christian has to fall in line with James Dobson's believe system (b.s.) And it's wonderful! I prayed to Christ last night for the first time in years. I don't know if anything happens to us after we die, so I don't know if Christ is alive in any literal sense or only in our hearts, but it was great talking to an old friend after such a long estrangement
So here's where I am now... I don't believe in the old testament. That's a bunch of stupid laws and fairy stories with some possible historical accuracies here and there. I don't believe Paul spoke for God. I think only Jesus spoke for God. His ideas were so radical for his time, he HAD to speak for God because he wasn't getting it from what he was taught (unless, as some claim, he did travel to the Orient and learn eastern mysticism). And I think the words of Christ maybe needed a vehicle as ugly as christianity to travel through time in. If Paul hadn't taken it upon himself to be the new Jesus, I don't know if the gospels would be with us today and Jesus' works may have been lost
Is there anyone out there who can relate to this? "
- ( of 60 )Subject: Ray's Bio. Page
"Hi Brother Ray,
Thank you for your website!! It's so nice to know there are others out there that have the same view of the teachings of Christ. Your writings will help me explain to others what I have been claiming all along - and why I cannot and will not support the Republican "religious right". I find nothing of Christ's teachings in what most Christians blindly follow - especially the arguments on abortion, (which most people I know use as the only reason they vote), and so many of the man-made tenants of Christian followings.
I also feel FDR was one of the greatest men of our time - my great-grandparents knew him through Father Coughlin and were very big supporters - of course it got a bit sticky when FDR and Coughlin parted company.
Just wanted to let you know I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts.
Wendy, 38, wife, mother and recovering pro-Choice Michigan Republican.
P. S. I've shared your website with several of my friends who considered themselves no longer Christian because they could not relate with what the definition of "Christian" is in these days. It has brought them back to feeling good that they do in fact follow Christ. And, I know for a fact that many of them are living examples of Christ's teachings."
- ( of 60 ). . . "God bless you for spelling it out and making it available so that we might pass this on to others who are so blinded by the Religious Radical Right wingnuts. While they will not listen to us, they just might be curious enough to do a little reading. I find it unbelievable how entrenched they are in the lies and deceit of this bunch of people. I believe it was Pope Pius XII who said, "The clergy is a sty of pigs." I think he would say the same thing in today's society. And especially of those of the Religious Radical Right wingnuts. They remind me of the words of Pastor Martin NiemÕller. Can anyone state it more succinctly! Again, my gratitude to you. I am thankful I found this site and am eager to email it to a long list of people, many of whom I know will also pass it along to many others."
- ( of 60 )Subject: Liberals Like Christ
" I have to say that, as someone who was raised evangelical Christian but is agnostic now, Ray's site is about the only interpretation of the New
Testament that would have a chance of bringing me back into the fold.
Ray, your astute and perceptive critiques of the way the religious right has hijacked Christianity are dead-spot-on. I recommend your site to anyone who has an interest in Chrisitianity and politics.
You also answered a question for me a while back in a very detailed e-mail. Not many people would do that for a stranger. Keep up the great work! "
- Dave, Cleveland, Ohio
- ( of 60 )Dear Ray
"I have read through your site and I must say that it's wonderful. . . I have been in church all of my life and have always felt the same way. I have asked myself many times, "why do these people hate everyone who is not like them?"
I go to a United Pentecostal Church, so I have worshipped with some of the most conservative people in christianity. . .
I'm really tired of "christians" hating everyone who is not exactly like them. I feel they must love them with the love of Christ, and allow Christ to do the convicting. Your site will be a valuable tool for opening the minds of my christian friends."
- Matt G. from Evansville, IN
- ( of 60 )
"I was raised Presbyterian, and finally, when I was 22 I decided that, if I was to be a true Christian, I should follow the teachings of Jesus. I took the Bible the church had given me at confirmation, which was a King James red-letter edition, and read all the words attributed to Jesus in a couple of days. What I found, stood me on my head… the church didn't follow his teaching at all. The minister was later fired for having sexual affairs with more than half a dozen wives from the congregation, which only confirmed my conclusions. The last I knew of him, he was divorced and selling 'life insurance' for one of the big companies. I could go on, but I won't
Needless to say, I agree with your basic premise on the website and have abandoned the official churches as a source of being Christian
Very truly yours"
- Subject: War vs. Peace page
"I have been against the war in Iraq and against the actions of the Bush administration from the beginning. I've been told by Conservative Christians that I should support George Bush because he is the President. His actions and policies are totally against all I believe in. I can not believe that God would make someone like George Bush a leader to conquer others and push us into war under false pretenses.
During the 90's I lived in Houston, TX and watched as Bush become Governor and took over. I feared his power as he took over the state and I wondered why I saw things to fear when others couldn't. I hoped I was wrong. I still believe I was right. I was shocked how the people of my church seemed to worship him. It bothered me to be so out-of-step, but I could not believe in this ignorant, bullyish leader.
Today I prayed for assurance, and as I meditated I realized that there had to be other Christians like me out there somewhere and then I looked on the internet and found this website. God guided me and answered my prayer. I praise him, I thank Him for this and ask Him to bless and guide others with this knowledge. Thank you,"
Sally B. Cleveland, Ohio
- ( of 60 )Subject: a suggestion:
"Put some of this on the page where you cite the Beatitudes.
The late biblical scholar George Lamas, a native Aramaic speaker, in his "Holy Bible from Ancient Eastern Transcripts" A. J. Homan Company, 1933, translates the phrase directly from the Syriac Aramaic bible (the Bible of the Church of the East, also known as the Peshitta) of his childhood as "Blessed are the humble."
Your website is amazing!!! I love it and have sent the link to a few of my religious friends. Unfortunately, many of the people in my own religion (Mormon Church) are conservative. So, I am on a personal mission to spread the message of liberalism and how Jesus Christ was the greatest progressive leader the world has ever known! Your website makes my mission easier. THANK YOU!"
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" My name is Rob G. I am 34, and a Liberal Democrat living in Logan, Utah. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons). As I am sure you are aware, I am an extreme rarity in my part of the world. Actually, now that I think about it, I am a rarity in my family. Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and say hello. I thank God that there are people like you and Alan Colmes who are not afraid to stand up for the truth
Thank you for all the hard work that you put into your site. I am happy to see that Liberals have stopped letting Conservatives make uncontested lay-ups against them
Also, I did have a question for you. I haven't been able to find an answer on your site yet. I just found the site today, and have quite a bit to catch up on. I was curious as to whether or not you felt that there are issues that Jesus Christ was a Conservative on? Or maybe another way of saying it, are there any Liberal views held by Christ that are shared by the Conservatives? And if so, what are these issues?
I look forward to hearing your opinion on these things.
Thanks again for all you do."
- ( of 60 )Subject : "Liberals Like Christ"
" I spent my childhood in a public school system that was run by Fundamentalists. I was stuffed to the gills with Bible study and Jesus.
The trouble was that the Fundamentalist version of Jesus is sick, hateful, and just plain mean. The more people are into that Jesus, the more sick, hateful, and mean they become. I now have no belief at all in the supernatural myself (although my wife is interested in Buddhism), and I call myself a Humanist, the fundamentalists having driven any ability to believe in god out of me.
The ethic of kindness and compassion that the real Jesus taught is what matters. What the Christian Right has done is more evil than I can express.
Thanks a lot. Peace to you and all who seek to live in peace and kindness."
L. K, ( Nashville, TN )
- ( of 60 )Subject : Ray's Liberal credentials
"The Rev. ("Rayosun") has been a hero to all of us in the progressive movement. He has stood for the religious community should stand for: Tolerance, Justice and Humanity. Rayosun has emphasized that Christians
should be liberal if they are following the message of Jesus. In fact on Ray's website, there is a even a place for liberals who aren't Christian.
Ray has always been a hero to me, especially since his story from the 1996 campaign. Ray went to a Jack Kemp rally in Connecticut, and snuck in with a Clinton-Gore sign. At the end of the rally (when the RWers are all relishing the thought of Dole's 15% tax cut), Ray all of the sudden jumped up, held the 2 sided sign up over his head and chanted at the top of his lungs: "Clinton & Gore are going to beat Dole & Kemp by 15%, 15%, 15% !!!!" He was almost arrested, but instead got his picture on the front page of the paper being dragged out by two cops with the sign clearly visible and legible over his head (including the "Call 1-800-for-Bill" phone #)."
- ( of 60 )Subject: Liberals Like Christ
" I'm the gay atheist Republican (who was ousted from the DemocraticUndergound.com forum for pushing conservative views there). I just wanted to say: I completely agree with the entire theme of your Web site and posts! Ayn Rand had it right: Christ was a socialist. I hope to "God" conservative Christians never figure that out. (as that will cost my Republican Party dearly!)
But there's no point for us to enter into a debate. -- You are more strongly at war with my values, with your emphasis on Christian egalitarianism than are run-of-the-mill liberals. You are against all my hopes and dreams for a freer society, and for my own business to succeed."
(a clarification by webmaster, Ray D : Despite all the disagreements this Conservative, Republican, and atheist has with me, he can say "I completely agree with the entire theme of your Web site and posts", which I take to mean that Ayn Rand and David share my view that Jesus Christ was a very Liberal teacher -- perhaps even a "socialist" . --)
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- I just found your website today and am very glad that something like this is out on the web. Thank you so much for making it.
I'm currently working for the United Methodist Church's General Board of Global Ministries as a short-term social justice missionary. Through the program which is much like Americorp,
I'm working at (a University) as Social Justice Coordinator in the campus ministry program. I tell ya, I'm really sick of the Christian Right which seems to have the dominant Christian voice these days. I'm very scared that the true spirit
and teachings of Jesus is quickly being lost and forgotten.
Thanks again for the website, I've forwarded it to all my friends."
- Adam B., (the state of Washington ).
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" I have informed about 40 different sites about your site. I have heard back from about 6 thanking me for the information and about 4 telling me they will get it up. One is a college Democratic site and one was a big women's democratic site. This is in just 2 days and I hope that there will be even more positive responses.
I have sent the site to about 23 individual friends. About half have already looked at it and found it informative and useful. I hope that all of this is okay and that I have not crossed any boundaries by asking to have others to link to your site."
- R, in Houston, Texas
- ( of 60 )Subject: Christlike page
" I was so glad to find this site. I was almost a full fledged atheist until I
arrived here. I had become so annoyed by the hypocrisy of Pat Robertson's
Christian Coalition, Jerry Falwell, local preachers and the like, I decided
that if that was what Heaven was about I wanted no part of it.
Now I can see that the bible is really being hijacked by these jack-booted
thugs who call themselves Christians, rather than thinking that this is
God's chosen messengers. I see from them that they have twisted the bible to
mean that being rich is great, being poor is to be lazy, and that God is a
conservative who will throw all Liberals in Hell.
Thank you for reminding me what the Bible really says, as I had only heard the conservative version for so long.
- Doug, from Missouri
- ( of 60 )Subject: Liberals Like Christ
" I am from the UK. Finding this site is a huge relief.
I have been a Christian for ten years, I have escaped the Fundie
Church called "Elim", here in the UK. " I then went to a more liberal Baptist church, but was always an outsider. Though I was active in both churches, I have struggled hard to reconcile my left of centre, Liberal heart to the right wing. I just can't do it. I have not been to a church for two years, I have been depressed, confused and upset.
I am British, however politically a natural Democrat. The political climate is different here, abortion is not a political issue, the death penalty abolished. However people love Bush in the UK too.
He scares me, the world situation scares me. I have kept my eye on the situation in the USA, I have become really distressed at the prospect that Bush,Ashcroft and the right wing are God's people, that this is his chosen leader that represents him. This mind set almost made me turn away for God altogether.
This site has been like Manna from Heaven, truly. It makes so much sense. So many of the things that upset me are taken from the Letters of Paul. Jesus had a very different message. His heart must break at the pain caused in his name in both the US and the UK."
Jenny ( United Kingdom )
- ( of 60 )Subject: "Liberals Like Christ"
I just discovered your web site last night and can not begin to describe to you how I felt. It was as if I had been breathing stale, oxygen depleted air for many years and had finally reached fresh air that I could gulp. My husband and I have struggled for some time with feeling that we were the only Christians who saw the relationship between politics and our faith differently than the main stream. I recently said to him that one of two things must hold true, either we were missing the point or the majority of the Christian church in America was deceived. (I must admit that while the first possibility is more personal, the latter is of greater concern.)
My purpose in writing to you is to simply say, "Thank you," and to encourage you in your efforts. I am referring your site to several people that I know will appreciate what you are saying. I am also praying about sending it to many others whom I believe would struggle against conviction. It is better to be convicted than condemned, though, isn't it?
- ( of 60 )Subject: Thank you for your website
" Words cannot express how much I appreciate your website. My mind reels at the amount of love and effort that went into it. It is truly a work of art.
Last night was one of the blackest nights of my life, in an already
terrible year. A third of my colleagues at work were laid off, and it looks like
it might be happening to me soon as well. My wife was already unemployed for several months this year, and we are heavily in debt.
My troubles pale in comparison, however, with the many others in this nation who have also
lost their jobs with NO resources to fall back on, while an uncaring government continues to handout billion dollar gifts to the wealthy campaign contributors who laid these poor people off. Plus the fact that thousands of Americans were killed by terrorists. Plus the fact that we are now engaged in a devastating, unwinnable "war on terror". Plus the fact that we are now also being sent death in the mail. Plus the fact that we are all being led down this dark path by an unelected dolt who was placed into office illegally and in violation of the U.S. Constitution. Things are just absolutely crazy.
Last night I sat in my office on the verge of tears. I prayed to God that I would see some avenue out of my despair, because from where I was sitting, there didn't seem to be any hope at all. I logged onto one of my favorite websites, The Smirking Chimp, and saw someone had posted a link to your site. I checked it out. I probed around a little bit. It was like someone (and I can imagine Who) had reached His hand down and pulled me up. This is the Jesus I believe in, the one who has always spoken so clearly to me from the scriptures. This is the Jesus of compassion and understanding, the protector of the downtrodden, the warrior for the underdog. This is the Jesus who receives his phenomenal strength from its Ultimate Source, God's Love.
This is NOT the Jesus of the Christian Coalition. He's not even the Jesus preached in most churches today, which is why my wife and I have not set foot in one in months, if not years. I don't know what's going to happen to this country. This beautiful land was started by some of the most brilliant men that ever lived, as a daring and controversial experiment in freedom and democracy. Over the last 30, 40, or 50 years, we've watched those principles be systematically
dismantled by the rich and powerful institutions who crave nothing more than more
money and power, and who fear nothing more than they fear rule by the people. I don't what's going to happen to this beautiful country, but since NONE
of our leaders seem to want to fight what's happening, and since most of the public still seems to be content with beer and circuses, it's probably not going to end well. Maybe in an international court like in Nuremberg.
More likely in a radioactive haze. No, I still don't have much hope, but I have a little. And I have this: a vision of how life should be lived, with real love and liberal compassion, given to us 2,000 years ago by Jesus Christ. Maybe when things get bad enough, we will finally listen to Him, and that's when evil will finally
In the meantime, thanks to your website, I at least know I'm
not alone. Thank you so much,"
C J (in New Mexico)
- ( of 60 )"I can't stop crying. I thought I was the only one who believed the way you do, I was raised a Baptist in the Bible belt, and I've stopped going to church more times than I can count because I couldn't reconcile the differences I saw in being "Christ-like" and being a Christian. I read John 4 over and over again about the woman at the well. Jesus transcended racial, sexist, moralist taboos to tell her, "I have something you need." That's my Jesus. That's my Savior. That is the person I've dedicated my life to following. May God richly bless you for filling such a need for everyone like me. I'll visit your website again, just as soon as I can quit crying long enough to read it.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart."
- ( of 60 )Dear Mr. Dubuque,
"Thank you for your website. I am a Christian Liberal Democrat who has never been politically active, but because of the shock of the agenda of the Right-Wing Christian Republicans and Election 2000, I am now fully involved in my search to counteract their unfair propaganda.
I am encouraged by people like yourself who have had similar experiences as myself. I was born a Catholic, but I no longer attend the Catholic Church. It has become politically Republican and spiritually questionable. I am saddened by the feeling of loss from the community of the Catholic Church that was so much a part of my childhood, yet I have found comfort in the words of Jesus Christ - "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free".
Your voice is so needed during this period in our history. I feel that our Democracy and the integrity of Christianity are in jeopardy. Using Christ for the sake of politics is an anathema in my opinion. To do so spoils the purity and sacredness of personal religious experiences and re-directs it to an open forum in order to promote secular legislation.
I am grateful that God has chosen you for the purpose of encouraging Liberal Democrats who are Christians. My sadness comes when I think of how the Right-Wing has divided Christians and pitted them against each other. Perhaps their purpose is to divide and conquer for the sake of politics. I think that many genuine Christian believers who are Republicans are being blind-sighted. However, I firmly do believe that truth shall be revealed and untruths shall be exposed in time. God bless you,
S. R., ( a Louisiana Democrat )